All right, everybody, welcome back. So today we have a very special guest. I'm going

to be interviewing one of my coaches, Coach Lizzie. She's been with a good Lord.

How long have you been with us now? Pushing three years. Oh, my gosh. I cannot

believe it. Well, Lizzie is one of our treasured coaches. She has a lot of

specialties. But one of the things that she does a lot of inside of our group is

she really helps people with perfectionism and goal setting and things like that. But

she's written a book. So talk about a goal setter. She's wrote a book or second

book. This is your second, correct? Yes. Okay. I knew I wasn't just making shit up.

And I wanted to interview and bring her on the podcast today because number one,

she's so helpful to our clients. And I just wanted you to hear from her. And then

on top of that, her book is something that I think,

And this whole podcast is going to be about how do we make weight loss a lot less

scary? Because if it is scary, guess what we ain't going to do? We ain't going to

do jack shit. So we're going to make it less scary for you today so that hopefully

it'll motivate you to lose your weight just like I have and Lizzie has. All right.

Go, Lizzie. Tell us the things. All right. Well, Corinne, thank you so much for the

opportunity to be on the podcast and, of course, part of the NOBS team. So my name

is Lizzie Merritt. I have been interested in weight loss for a long time,

certainly been, had my own journey of ups and downs along the scale. And my kind

of, the last time I lost weight was during the pandemic, it all crept back on.

And I was just beyond frustrated and annoyed. And that's actually where the book

begins.

But we can get into that later, but basically when I finally was like,

I got to figure this out. And so I began figuring out for myself. And throughout

that process, I also was becoming a life coach. And I was like, I was desperate to

get a job in any kind of coaching capacity. So I actually started working for Noom

as a coach for Noom, which was a interesting experience. It was a great stepping

stone. And there's a reason why I have moved on.

But in that, it really rekindled my desire to help share what I've learned about

weight loss. And so that's where my first book came from. And during that process,

I was like, okay, Noom has some good things, but it's missing a lot. And so I

was, just as you said, like, I love to go deep on the in detail. So I was like,

on the hunt for like, who are other people who are talking about weight loss in

the right way? And wouldn't you know, I found the Losing 100 with Corinne podcast.

And so I got you in my ears as I'm coaching people through Noom. And I'm like,

this lady, like, she's, she's got the right stuff. This is it. And so through a

lot of my own stuff through your work with me. I was like, I helped myself lose

the weight. I held my clients lose the weight. And then lo and behold, I guess in

the spring of 23, you were hiring. And I was like, what the hell? Give it a shot.

And MJ was like, where did you come from? So it has been a wonderful ride ever

since. It really has been. I mean, I'm not joking, y 'all She's one of the coaches

that people reference a lot, you know, people write in all the time how Coach

Lizzie has helped me. Coach Lizzie has helped me because one of the things we do

really try to do inside of No BS is in an age where you can download an app

anywhere to lose weight. You can, you know, go on AI and whatever. We are still

very personal. I feel like weight loss is a personal thing. Too many of us have a

lot of garbage that we want to work through. And it's important to feel like the

people who are helping you understand what you're going through. I was saying

something yesterday to someone on a, like an Instagram, talking about how I remember

back in the day trying to lose weight and being so frustrated because the people

that were always trying to help me lose weight had never had to do it themselves.

You know, it's like, don't tell me some bullshit.

pounds like me. Right. From my highest, about 30 pounds. There you go.

There you go. All right. Let's get into the book. So when we go into your book,

one of the things that you talk about is diets are a lot like Groundhog Day, which

I think every woman understands. That is like, that's how I always felt. It was

like I was always starting like a new diet, but it always felt like the same

flavor of some old shit. You know, like basically willpower, try hard, don't mess

up, you know, stay in line. So tell us what you mean when you say,

like, we are going to break out of the Groundhog Day cycle when it comes to losing

weight. So diets are like Groundhog Day because they basically are, you know,

in the movie Groundhog Day, like he repeats the same day over and over again. And

that's effectively what diets are. It's like, here's the rules, follow the rules, and

you'll lose weight. Tadda, magic. And diets don't tell you what to do when it's

hard to follow the rules. They don't tell you why it's hard to follow the rules.

And so we end up blaming ourselves because the rules seem simple. Like we're smart

women. We're like, I can figure this out. The rules like make sense. Step follow

step. Step one, three, five. I can do that. And then when I can't do that, I'm

like, well, I'm the problem. And so we always blame ourselves. And what light does

differently is like, I don't want to give you a bunch of rules. I want to give

you a framework for you to help think through, you know, the process of how to

lose weight in a way that works for you. And so light is, it's representative of a

lot of things. So first of all, it is an acronym that stands for basically kind of

like,

If there's one way to sort of summarize me as a coach, it's like the mixture of

like the science and the emotional piece together that like it just that that makes

so much sense to me because I'm like there's so much about diets that don't work

because they don't address the emotional piece. They don't address why it is so hard

for us to follow their seemingly simple rules. But I also like the science piece

because I'm like, explain to me why this works. Like, if you can explain to me the

process of why my brain,

the rules and then leaves you out to dry. I just think that's really important

because one of the things that, like, has always made sense to me. And what I have

noticed just coaching people, like talking to them and helping them with losing

weight is, if you understand why something is all of the pressure gets released from

you. Because our brains are very much going to fill in the gaps. So if I mess

something, like, just like you said, if I get a diet and it says, here's the five

things you got to do to lose weight. And you're like, well, that makes complete

sense. Because we're not dumb. We're not dumb people. Right. We feel dumb when we

look at something that's really simple and we're like, but why can't I do that?

Yes. And our brain, this is what so many women don't understand is it fills in the

gaps. It's like, oh, you don't know why? Well, if you're not going to go find out

the real reason, let me tell you. It must be because you suck.

You're lazy. Right. I mean, you ain't got no willpower. Look at your friend, Linda.

She's over there exercising willpower all day long, losing. Right. So I love that

your book is going to emphasize, like, that piece that gives us some relief.

Exactly. So the first part, part one is the light method. So that explains what the

acronym, light means. And like I said, it's like the scientific method for weight

loss, which I'm happy to go into. But then part two is all about those obstacles

that get in the way. All those things that diets just don't even tell you about of

like, okay, now you know the process. here's why it's going to be hard and here's

why when it's hard it's not your fault and let's help you navigate those those

murky waters instead of just saying good luck and so there's god how many chapters

is that i can't remember roughly eight chapters of like here are all the obstacles

that are going to get in your way and how to navigate them like you know feeling

not enough perfectionism feel a your excuses, emotional eating, and more.

So that's what frustrates me so much about diets. It's like, again, they seem

simple. And then we feel like we're the problem when we can't follow them. And so

I want to say, number one, it's not simple. Number two, you don't need rules. You

need a framework so you can adjust it to you. And then let's talk about all of

those very normal challenges that are so real and not your fault and how to help

you through them rather than just saying good luck. Yeah, I think what, like,

I love what you're saying because I've been doing some like just podcasting and

different things. And one of the things I keep coming back to is diets are really

good until the moment you mess something up. Right. Like if you eat off plan or

you eat too many calories that day, whatever, you miss a workout or whatever, they

do not give us any kind of instruction on what to do after that moment.

The expectation is, I hand you the plan and you just do it.

And that doesn't work in real life. In real life, we get invited to dinner. In

real life, our boss asks us to work late. In real life, we have to skip lunch

because we're in a meeting. In real life, people die, pets die, we go through

sadness, we go on vacations, that is real life. And if you don't have something

that can bend and flex with that, and you don't have something that can help you

navigate all the reasons why things are hard for you, you will fail,

but it won't be your failure. It's their failure to educate you. Is there a failure

to fill in those gaps for you? I mean, I just think that's really good that you're

doing that because it is, I just said it on my last call.

I will die on the hill that says women know how to lose weight. You ask anyone,

Groundhog Day is the best way to describe it. You ask anyone, I would say like,

your child's life depends on you telling me, what are good foods to eat. How often

should you work out? About how many calories you think a woman should eat? Almost

every woman, if their child's life depends on, they can spit that shit out. That is

not our problem. Our problem is, but I'm a perfectionist and I did something wrong

today. And I'll go ahead. You go ahead. Well, that's one of the things like a diet

is like a perfectionist wet dream.

It's like, oh, my God, you gave me the rules. I know how to get it right. And so

the perfectionist feels so safe in a diet because I have a framework.

I know what to do. And it's such a mirage because of all the things you just

said. Like it doesn't equip you for real life. And then

anybody, but particularly perfectionists, feel like it's such a failure when something

doesn't go to plan. And they assume it's their fault. And so then, of course, all

of the waterfall effects from there, it's like, well, why even bother? Or like, you

know, the hell with it. I screwed up. Might as well just, you know, start over

Monday. And all the different kinds of things. And so, you know, a diet is

basically like perfectionism with different marketing. And so it's,

it's, and I bet you would, you've seen this a lot too. I bet you would agree that

like one of the hardest things that we have to address with our clients is

unlearning the, the things that they began to believe about themselves. Like,

I always fail. I always mess this up. And I'm going to be like, no, it's the diet

that screwed you. Let's give you a way to figure it out in your actual life with

the ups and downs of things that really happen. Yeah, I tell my clients all the

time, and I know you've heard me say this, because I'm sure you listen to a lot

of my shit, is just because something feels true, it doesn't make it true. Right.

So I always like to tell people, like, I know it feels true that you failed every

diet. It is equally as true. Let's say that you failed every diet because the

second you do something wrong, you really beat yourself up over it. I have a good

friend. He calls it hypothetical hell. And that's what he goes into.

So if he messes up, he goes into hypokale, I was like, well, if I did this, then

what if this happens? And what if this happens? And what if this happens? And what

if this happens? And let's say,

you've done has ended in you failing. It's also equally as true that every diet you

did never addressed hypothetical hell and perfectionism. And unless those things ever

got addressed, how are you supposed to win? How are you supposed to be able to do

it? And it's like, that is one example of things that were not taught. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, there's a million Right. Like,

habit change.

No one really teaches us. Like, when, like, diets expect us to just change tomorrow.

Like, well, tomorrow's Monday. So. When they say, do it for 21 days and you're

fixed. Come on. It is like, no. Like, I have ate, like, I have stress ate every

day of my life since I was five. Right. And I'm 50 something years old now. In 21

days, that is not a habit that's going to die on the vine because I didn't do it

for 21 days. And by the way, it didn't even address why you stress aid. Exactly.

Yeah, there's a lot that, you know, if there's anything I would love for somebody

to take from this episode, it is this one core message. You can sit around and

keep saying that you're the reason why you're failing diets and you're not ever

going to be able to get out of that hole. Or you can just say, I feel like that

is what's happened, but also I am learning from Corinne and Lizzie that what's also

true is there is a lot going on when it comes to losing weight. No one's ever

told me. And if I didn't know how was I supposed to be able to solve it.

I often use this example of a puzzle. It's like anybody could put together a

hundred piece puzzles they had every piece. You know, and if I offered you a

million dollars to solve a hundred piece puzzle, I'll even give you 100 days to do

it. You'd be able to do it. But if I kept back five pieces,

you could try hard. You could start over every day. You could do everything you

could and every day you would fail at putting that puzzle together, no matter how

bad you wanted it and how hard you tried because you didn't have everything you

needed. And I think that that is what we got to really educate women on. And I'm

so glad you wrote a book that really is filling in those gaps because I promise

all of you the moment the gaps get filled in, you will feel relief that you have

never felt before. You will for once in your life feel like maybe I'm not the bad

guy in this.

Maybe if I knew some of this stuff, this might actually help me. And maybe this is

what I've always been missing. And that allows you hope instead of hopelessness.

Exactly. And I just think that's what most women need. They just need some fucking

hope. But the only way to get there is you've got to have something that's really

proven to you that what you think might not be true. Right. All right.

So let's go on to, this is a king ding -dong bullshit statement that women say all

the time. And I know you address it. What is the danger in thinking, I should know

this by now. Because what all we're talking about, Every woman would say like, okay,

I get it. You got information, but shouldn't I know how to lose weight by now?

Exactly. And so to, you know, to the person who's listening, she might be thinking,

yes, I should know this. I should know how to lose weight. I've done a thousand

diets. I'm not disagree with that. What I disagree with what you think you should

know is I do not think you should know how to handle emotional eating because who

taught you that? Did weight watchers teach you that? Did keto teach you that?

Or I would say, I do not think you should know how to handle nighttime eating when

that was, you know, you went to eat, you know, to escape dad's anger at night when

he came home, you know, frustrated from work. That's a really primal, like, coping

mechanism that you learned a long time ago. And if you don't, you know, unearth

that, you're going to think, well, I just should know better than to eat at night,

but you don't know why you eat at night. You don't know that it is your brain

seeking safety and comfort. And you've got to, you know, establish the safety first

before you can unwind that habit. And so there are so many things that I don't

think you should know how to do because nobody ever taught us how to handle all of

those things like a fear of failure. Like how should you know how to handle fear

or failure? It's baked into your DNA as a human to be afraid of failure. It's, you

know, how should you already know how to handle people pleasing? Like I should know

that I shouldn't eat necessarily overeated holidays. But like nobody taught you how

to handle it when Aunt Linda says, you're not going to have my pie? I made it

specially for you. Like, who taught you that? No diet ever. And so that's why I

would say, I disagree. I don't think you should know. And so that actually speaks

to the part one of the light method is the acronym. And L stands for learn with a

beginner's mind, is that I want you to approach this last time that you lose weight

with a beginner's mind. I know you, who I'm speaking to, like the listener, I know

you think that you know how to lose weight. And I'm not disagreeing with that, but

I want you to approach this new process with a beginner's mind like if you imagine

you didn't know anything about diets like the first time i thought that like what

if i didn't know anything about diets it kind of broke my brain for a second it's

like i just could not imagine a life where i didn't know about diets and so that

is how we need to sort of begin this process of like what if i didn't already

know yeah so that's l learn with a beginner's mind. And then I stands for

investigate with curiosity. And curiosity is so, so, so important to your weight loss

process because, again, so many of us think we should know. And so we don't bring

any curiosity. We're like, damn it, I screwed it up. There's no curiosity in that.

There's just shame and judgment. And think of a kindergartner. A kindergartner is not

going to learn in a environment where they are judged and shamed all the time. And

neither will you. So I stands for investigate with curiosity. And then G stands for

gather data. So your life is giving you data all of the time. And I want you to

look at it like data, like neutral data. Like, oh, I, um, I over ate at dinner

last night. Instead of, damn it, I did it again. It's more, let's gather some data.

I wonder why that happened. We're going to investigate with curiosity and see, like,

how many times does that happen? What happened earlier in the day? I want you to

like investigate it. Be curious. Gather data. And then H is harness your results.

I love this chapter because it talks about how so many people who are successful,

A, failed a lot, but they didn't just get over it. They didn't just get through

it. They used it. They harnessed it. And if I don't love the word failure,

but we're all going to face that. We're all going to have mess ups. We're all

going to have overeats. We're all going to have emotional eats. I'm sure you have

them. I have them. So it's going to happen. So if you can learn to harness those

moments when you didn't show up the way you ideally wanted to because they will

happen. Let's utilize them. And so I look at that as like those messups are not

something to brush under the rug, something to judge yourself for, or even something

to just move on from. There's something to use and capitalize on and learn from.

And then T stands for Tend your garden because weight loss is not a race.

up, that's normal. It's not a failure on the gardener's part. And so you have a

different mindset towards tending a garden. And I want to look at your weight loss

in that way that like seasons will change. You need to adapt, whether that's the

seasons of the year. Like life is different when school starts versus summer or

whether that's seasons of life. Like life is different when the kids are little or

when you're an empty nestor or now, you know, mom is sick and you're, you know,

tending or taking care of elderly parents. So you need a, a weight loss process and

a weight loss maintenance process that can adapt with the changes of life. That is

not a rigid diet that like, you know, if something breaks, well, the whole thing is

out of whack. I want you to be able to adapt and tend. Yeah. You can't like I, I

really do believe that you cannot do diets that can't move with you throughout your

life. Right. You know, it is, it is a fool's air.

whatever you do to lose weight, better be able to fit all that. It needs to be

able to be able to bend with it. I want to go back to the should know. Don't you

think there's, I love what you said, by the way. I love the whole idea of like,

no, you shouldn't know. There's like, I think diets, traditional diets, they do a

really good job of giving us the rules. And like, if we, if we just need formulas,

they're really good at that. Right. You know, and like for some people that really

does work, you know, my husband is one of them. If he has a formula, he's going

to do a formula and he's just going to follow it and there's not going to be any

kind of drama because it's more dramatic for him to not follow a formula. He

doesn't like, you know, freeballing at all, you know. But there's also a lot that

we do know that we think it's like we apply that I should know that we have

learned over the years in dieting that's just bad information now. Oh, yeah. Like,

I think there's a lot where women, like, I should know better. And they're applying,

you know, some fucking rule they learned from an ass hat in the 80s. You know,

like, we used to think drinking coffee and smoking was a really good idea to lose

weight. Right. You know, like, and I know that's extreme, but there are, like,

I'm not a big, I don't really believe in fasting for women. I've always thought

that that is, like, my whole premise is you should be a well -fed woman, not an

underfed one. Underfed women are weak. You know, like what happens? We,

our bones and our muscles go away and stuff. And so part of that should know

better. I think I love what you said about, like, what if you erased your brain.

And you were going to start from that beginner's mindset where it's like, I need to

pretend like I don't know dick about weight loss. Because I always feel like if you

know the best stuff, it should feel easier than it is. You find that it's really

hard. There are things missing. And I think that your book and no BS.

I feel like we're the people who are running around filling the holes. A long time

ago, my son went to a behavioral therapist. And I was crying one day thinking he

was never going to get any better. And we were in the early stages. And Logan,

when he first, you know, you wouldn't know it now because he's a real talker. He's

a talker like his mama. But when he was little, he was not. And it wasn't that he

couldn't say words. He had very clear

articulation. So if he, if he learned a word, he sounded better than, he never had

said words in a weird way, like little kids do. But he couldn't sequence things. So

in his brain, he couldn't like make decisions and he couldn't tell you a story and

he couldn't tell you about his day. Like, he didn't know how to take inputs and

put them in order. And I was so worried about this and amongst other things. So I

was,

You know, when we talk about explaining the why and you get some relief when you

know something, she told me that his brain was like Swiss cheese. There's a lot of

holes. Some were big and some were really little. And that we were going to spend

years plugging the holes. And then one day, his brain would look more like a solid

block of cheese. And so we were going to plug in. How do you sequence a story? We

were going to plug in. How do you read facial expressions and know if someone's

upset or happy. And we're going to plug in when you jump into a conversation and

when you don't. And we're going to plug in how much you share when you first meet

somebody versus you've been knowing them for two years. And I feel like diets are

the same way. I feel like us women, we are walking around with Swiss cheese brains

when it goes to diets. We've been given some information. Some of it's good and

some of it's not. But you need somebody like us to come in plug holes.

head and be like, I'm here, bitch.

So can we just dig more into that topic a little bit? Because I think it would be

really helpful for everybody. So what would you like us to know about perfectionism

and how it plays in weight loss? I find perfectionism be such a fascinating topic

because of what you just said, that there are many faces of perfectionism. And so I

didn't necessarily think of myself as a perfectionist either until I was like, oh my

God, I totally am in this particular way. No one would mistake me as a

perfectionist, except in like little pockets of life. All of a sudden, I'm like,

anal.

And so the thing about, and there are some great books,

I've done a lot of research on perfectionism. Some of them are frustrating in that

they only demonize perfectionism, like all of the ways that it messes us up. And it

does. Like, perfectionism can absolutely get in our way. But it also is a really

powerful force. There's a ton of energy behind that. And so where I come at it is

like, look, whatever your flavor of perfectionism is. And in my chapter on

perfectionism, I actually talk about the four types of perfectionism in weight loss

and how it shows up, whether it's like, yeah. I want to hear it. Oh,

okay. On the top of my head. That's all right. Just give me one at least. There's

like the right timer perfectionist of like, it's got to be the right time. Like

when life slows down, when work's not so busy, there's that kind. Or there's the

shiny object perfectionist who's like, ooh, that new diet looks great. Or like, oh,

I'm going to do the cleanse. So, and they try something for a week or a month and

it kind of gets old and stale and then it's like on to the new thing. So there's

that, there's the rule follower perfectionist. That's kind of the more classic one of

like, I want to get it right. I want to know the rules and I want to get the A

plus.

That's my best friend. If she listens to this podcast, she's going to be like, you

called me out in front of the entire world, Corinne. She's admittedly, She's that

version of perfection. I'm probably shiny object professions. Okay. I can get

distracted real easy with something. And if it's brand new, I get highly motivated

real quick and I peter out real fast. So I have to really guard against choosing

things to actually start. And I have to purposely slow down the process because I'll

just dive head First. My niece and I were joking around this morning. I got this

new, it's like a face thing that you do. I didn't read the instructions.

And so yesterday I'm trying to do it. Nothing's working. And my husband goes, would

you read the instructions? I was like, no. And I was like, this thing has got one

button. And this thing. I was like, all I do is do this. And he was like, if you

read the instructions, maybe you'll figure out why it's not working. And I was like,

no, I'm just going to make it. is

she's like her perfectionism is about like everyone else feels good um and so

oftentimes our perfectionism can show up in kind of like more than one primary way

so like i'm mostly this one and then a little bit of that one some of us are all

of them but um the ways that that can show up in weight loss can can you know

once you you see that like this is normal it's not a character flaw is actually

something that is part of your DNA, either because of your upbringing or because of

just how your brain is wired. And so instead of saying, stop being a perfectionist

and just settle for average, I say, let's utilize, let's capitalize on that energy

of your specific type of perfectionism and use it in a way that you can harness it

to your advantage and use it in a helpful way. And you have done a beautiful job

in some of your previous podcasts. Like you talk about ideal self versus

perfectionist self and that ideal self thinking. And I love how you present it that

like you can use that energy and harness it towards,

you know, your goals rather than just saying, I need to, you know, just stopping a

perfectionist and settle for average. Like no perfectionist ever is going to be happy

with that. Right. I think that so.

I mean, to the point, I mean, I could get no work done every day. I could just

sit and ideate all the time. Any, anything that you have has a strength and a

weakness on it. So, like, if you ever take any of those strength finders tests or

you ever take any test, they will always say there's nothing, like, your

perfectionism or whatever, none of it's wrong. It's just sometimes it can be used to

its advantage and you want to watch for where you might be sliding into places

where you're overusing it.

sitting there just eating whatever I want, whenever I want, and spend my entire life

wanting to lose weight. That is called being miserable. So sometimes what we have to

do is we have to find those healthy balances. It's like, all right,

I will never have boring food plans because I'm a spontaneous person. But I also am

going to have food plans to make sure that the part of me that wants to enjoy her

food gets a voice. that's how you kind of like tamp those things down some and I

think that that's the shit that diets just aren't teaching us they're just not

helping us understand like at the base of it a lot of the psychology that goes

into it we are not robots y 'all are not robots we cannot just be given it's not

like y 'all are a bunch of chat gpt a i bishes there's like let me just give you

an input and i go lose some weight It's almost like how we're treated. It's like,

we have psychology in us. Like, there are things that work for and against us in

our brain. And when you understand those things, now you know the things to watch

out for. And now you know the things to lean into. And that makes weight loss so

much easier when you understand those things. Yeah. And I liked your example of the,

you know, I'm the spontaneous one. And so, like, that's a great placeholder for

whatever a person identifies as or whatever is challenging about the typical diet for

an individual and be like, okay, let's take that and use it intentionally. So if

you are spontaneous, amazing. Let's be spontaneous intentionally. If you are like,

I cannot do keto. I have to have carbs. Amazing. Let's do it intentionally.

If you're, I don't know, like the rule follower perfectionist. I like to have rules.

Okay, great. Let's use it intentionally. So it's not rules. It's choices. Yes.

And so I would like shape that whatever you find hard about diets. I mean, like,

let's use that to your advantage and do it intentionally rather than just saying the

diet sucks. I suck. I'm never going to lose weight. The end. That's why I always

like what we do in no BS is because I always tell them was like I'm giving you

some basic guidelines like you know here are the like I don't like to call them

rules always like to call them like guidelines guardrails those kinds of things but

if you want to say rules I don't really give shit there's this like these few

little things that we're going to do but within those I always teach people how to

honor the spirit of it there's a lot of ways to do them and I always feel like

when we're in diets, there's not a lot of ways to do it. It's this or it's that.

And that's it. You know, like, I can't even tell you how many diets I did back

into the day that, here are all the food you can't eat. Like, really?

Like, never? Right. Like, you just can't. Right. And it's like none of those foods

were ever the problem. Exactly. It was always the reason why I was eating them so

much. That was always my problem. And when they don't address that and they just

take the food away, it's like, I always say, if you are eating over a problem and

somebody takes your food away, they just took away the only way you know how to

work with your problems, get through your problems, handle your problems. So they

better be sitting there helping you with the problems. Otherwise, you're screwed.

Because the food's not the issue. The food's the symptom. never never yeah what else

do we need to know before we wrap things up anything you would love to add so um

within the framework of the book you know kind of another layer of the word light

is part one is about feeling light feeling lighter in your weight loss journey so

that's why i get the light method and so it's like let's make this a lighter

process for you so it's not so heavy so heavy in the way you're approaching it,

but you're also feeling lighter in your body. Part two is about seeing light,

seeing the light that is within you, that is like seeing that,

that you have that light that you already are looking for. It's just that all of

those obstacles that we address in part two have kind of covered it up and have

gotten it in the way. So we're peeling back that layer of perfectionism. we're

peeling back that layer of feeling not enough of excuses emotionally we're peeling

back so that you can see your own light and then part three is be light which is

basically like it's time to live the life you want to lose weight for because not

a single person listening to the sound of my voice right now wants to lose weight

for that effing number on the scale. No. She wants to lose weight for the life she

thinks she will have when the scale says that number. And so I say, let's live

that life now as you're losing the weight and when you lose the weight.

Because the worst thing is to muscle and hustle and willpower your way down the

scale and get there and be like, I hate this because I've done it. it's not a

happy feeling. And so I want women to be able to lose weight not only along the

way, loving themselves and loving their life, but also getting to a place where they

lose the weight. And they're like, this is the life I've lost weight for. I am

here rather than so often you hear women to be like, well, I got to my goal

weight, but I think I just want to lose five more pounds. And like, okay, maybe,

but why? Like, what are you still chasing? So, and then part four, because I'm a

big nerd, is the light lab. And so since it's all kind of about science and like

treating weight loss like a science experiment, the light lab is a collection of

some experiences, excuse me, experiments that I have beta tested with some of my

clients and it out. And so they have some evidence of, you know, these, these

experiments work. But it's not a, like, it's not a process, you know,

follow this. It's more choose your own adventure. Like, so there are experiments

related to perfectionism. If that's your issue, go to that section. If there's, you

know, experiments related to excuses, go to that section. And so it's, it's a very

much kind of, um, the reader leads leads the way. And ultimately,

like, that's how I want women to lose weight. I want the person, the client, to be

in charge of her journey. And like, we are the one saying, let's walk alongside

you. Like, I don't want to be the guru. I want to be the one that says, let's

help you figure it out for yourself in your life so you can keep doing it rather

than following some gurus, you know, seven steps. And then when something happens,

you're like, now what? Well, I think this is really good, because it does kind of

I didn't believe it at all when I started. I mean, it took, I always tell people

I had lost about 75 pounds of the 100 when I finally was like,

I think I can do this. I mean, it was like literally, I had a lot of doubt. I

didn't think it could do it. And on day one, I had zero belief. But I had what I

just call like an ounce of hope. Like there was just like this little part of me

that was just like, I don't know, we've got to be able to figure this out.

There's got to be an answer. And when I kept like having that nag, I knew that

like I just had to keep trying. And I think that like one of the things for me

that made things easier was I didn't have the books. I didn't have podcasts. I

didn't have a coach Lizzie. I didn't have anything. For some reason, I guess in my

early 20s, I had read some self -development at work. And it must have all come

together because there was this little piece of me that was saying it's what's going

on between your ears. This is the major problem that we've got to fix. Whatever's

happening in your head, that is why you're eating so much. And we fix some of that

stuff, the eating's going to go down. And so I think that if people read your book

and they start filling in some of these holes for themselves,

You need to be a no BS woman. So if you become a no BS woman, you join the

program. Lizzie's one of our coaches. So she's one of the people that you have

access to. And if you really want to work with a one -on -one, we have an upgrade

part of our membership where you can upgrade and work personally with a coach. So

you can work with a Lizzie or if you've been listening to the podcast for a long

time, Coach Kathy is in there. We've got really good coaches on our team.

Anything else you want us to know? I love how you said you're, you didn't have

belief, but you're like, I think I can figure this out. And that is what I love

so much about this approach to weight loss is that when, because I, my fear of

failure is sky high. Like I can fear of failure with the best of them. And the

way I get around it is I say, let's just see what happens. If we treat this like

an experiment, then you can't fail. And so my version of I can figure this out is,

let's just see what happens. And so that takes away some of that, that's fear and

scariness and makes it doable. Yeah. I just recently was working with my coach and

she said something interesting to me because I kept saying, my legs will never look

the way I want them to look. And she was like, crint, you know, that's a terrible

thought. And I was like, what do you mean? They aren't going to look the way I

ever want them to. And she said, I understand that. And that is true,

probably based on scars and things like that, you know, unless somebody invents

something, she said, But why would you ever tell yourself that over and over again?

Because I was actually bitching about dreading going to the gym. And she said, what

if the, like, you know, I always say like, this feels true, but this is also true.

She said, what if it's also true that you don't really know what they could look

like? Because you've never given it your all. I was like, fuck me, Beth. I was

That's my new thought. I'm going to the gym with that every day. And like, because

somewhere between me, like, resigning to the idea of being disappointed,

which I think a lot of our women is like, I'll never be able to lose my weight.

I'm just never going to be able to lose my weight. But I'm going to try again.

But it's such a shitty way to start and it's a shitty way to try because it just

gives you no energy. You know, like you have to rely on willpower at that point.

You have to rely on discipline and you have to look for perfect days. But if you

kind of go in and you're just like, you know what, I don't really know what could

happen. Because that is really true. Exactly. There's not one of you listening in

this podcast right now. You do not know if the next time you try will be the one

time. You cannot predict it. You feel like it won't be. And you're scared to try

because you're so hard on yourself when it happens that you keep not trying to

protect yourself from that. But it is very true. You do not know when it might

happen for you. I, and I'm sure you feel the same way. I felt so many times

before I tried to lose weight. I had zero evidence that this was going to be the

time. Thank God that I tried, even though I was scared.

And even though I had zero evidence that it was going to work because I had no

clue that that was the time. And I'm so glad I didn't miss it. Yeah. And I don't

want our women missing that. And I really feel like books like yours where you're

filling in those Swiss cheese holes left and right of like, here's the stuff you've

been missing. This might be exactly what.

I appreciate that. I do want it bad for every woman. I don't think I spend a

moment of my waking hours, not trying to solve weight life.

All right. Thank you so much, Lizzie. And y 'all, I will see you next week.

Bye y 'all.