Corinne:

Hello, everybody. Welcome back. So today, Kathy and I are celebrating the 200th episode here at losing 100 pounds. We remember when we recorded the first episode, this is the way back machine. We were at another house and we were in my old office and Kathy looked like she was going to die.

Kathy:

I was terrified. I still couldn’t believe you put a microphone in front of me.

Corinne:

Now, all I remember about our early podcast days where every single time we would podcast for like the first 10 minutes, Kathy was always just pale white. Just like blood had drained from her, then she’d get on a roll. And then the only other thing I ever remember about the early days was Chris constantly before we would podcast, he’d come in and he would beg you just, you can’t get close enough to the mic, Kathy. We would test the mics because I’d be so loud that your mic would pick me up. We had to put a shield around you. So we’ve come along way.

Kathy:

Do you remember standing behind that shield? For a little while we couldn’t even see each.

Corinne:

I know. We had these weird little shields. We had all kinds of stuff. Now due to the COVID, we are on video and we talked to each other from our respective offices and we video it and it gets put into, sometimes you’ll see us on Instagram and little clips and different things like that. So we have come a long way. I swear to God, we’ve talked about everything, some things two and three times now.

Kathy:

How many time have we talked about your period? It’s going to be one in four.

Corinne:

Now that we’re doing the podcast, let me give you all ablasion update 2021. I am in the final stages. So I had to have a pap smear to make sure that everything was fine. That came back good. Of course, I’m trying to do all this when we are in the hardest time ever to get into a doctor and do things, then they had to do an ultrasound to make sure that my uterus wasn’t too big. And I’m a muscular girl. I’ve always been more on the, like… I’ve always told people, I like being the kind of person that when she walks down the street robbers are like, “Not that one.” I was praying that I would have a dainty uterus.

Kathy:

Dainty?

Corinne:

For God’s sake, don’t let me have my big muscular uterus that can’t take an ablasion. [crosstalk 00:02:41].

Kathy:

I don’t know that I would describe anything about you as dainty. I’ll have to think on that.

Corinne:

Well, at least we know I had an average size uterus. There’s always that, and that’s good. So now we’re just in the final stages of scheduling it. And everybody promises me that it’s going to be amazing and that I won’t have these wretched periods to about on the podcast all the time. Speaking of, I’m not on it, but I’m in the seven day window, which means I’m usually emotional and tired. So for all of you who listen to the podcast, we have episodes where I talk about my period protocol, because when my period starts, it’s pretty rough. All I want to do is eat carbs. And so I plan for carbs, but the seven days leading up, one of the other things that I do is, I love to workout. I love my Peloton. I like a hard workout. I like to lift weights. I like to do big sweaty ones. And the week before my period, I take it down like 10 notches. I can just start feeling it. Like I’m just tired.

Corinne:

So starting today, I went to walking and just like a really good long walk, getting in my steps, not trying to push myself. So I spend real conscious time the week before my period just listening to myself and not feeling guilty. I’ve gotten over all the years where I felt like I should be working out like I always do. And I’m like, “No, I shouldn’t. I should be listening to my body. My body is saying it’s run down.” And I know this because I wear an oura ring, which if you don’t know, it’s O-U-R-A. An oura ring will track your resting heart rate and your sleep and it just tracks all kinds of different biometrics. I probably had mine about six months. And I will tell you guys that week before my period, it gives you a daily… What is it called? Like your daily score or whatever.

Kathy:

It’s like daily readiness, I think is what’s called.

Corinne:

Yes. You’re either ready for the day or it’s like slow down tiger. I swear when I get in that seven day window, I drop about 20 points. It will say something’s going on, but even my body temperature will rise and your body doesn’t like it when your body temperature rises. And so even just that 0.5 to 0.8 rise, really takes all of my recovery stuff down. So, I say all this, because today what we’re doing is we’re talking about diets we would never do again. And that’s because when I… I wanted to give you guys something special today and it’ll be a little funny, because we’re just basically going to bitch and moan about crazy diets we’ve done.

Corinne:

But it’s interesting when I think about the concept of who I used to be when I tried to lose weight and who I now as someone who wants to feel the best she can feel. And when I teach all of you how to lose your weight, it’s always from this mindset of, we’re going to lose it the way we want to live our life. There’s no sense in losing weight, if you’re not going to feel amazing and love yourself at the end. There’s no reason to do a bunch of shit that you’re going to hate all along the way. I think about how I live now, when I did crazy diets, I never listened to my body. I always listened what the experts said. And I listened to what they said I should be doing even when my body was screaming, this is wrong.

Corinne:

I remember doing diets where my hair would fall out for the sake of weight loss. I remember doing diets where I would be so tired. It’s really was one diet I went on. Now, this was after I had lost my weight and I had decided to do bodybuilding competitions. Thinking about a diet I’ll never do again. Well, and I have nothing against my old bodybuilding trainer. I loved him and his wife. They did so much for me in terms of, they taught me how to love lifting weights. And they taught me how to push myself with strength in a way that I never thought I could as a woman and was so proud of myself. I remember going to the gym and working out with Tony and doing squats and leg presses and shoulder presses and stuff, and the guys in the gym would come up and be like, “Bro, are you going to have her lift that much weight?” And he was like, “Yeah, and she can, can’t you?”

Corinne:

It was just because he knew that I was strong. He knew I was strong before I knew I was strong. But what didn’t work was the whole bodybuilding thing is crazy in itself, you have to get to a severe underweight to even be able to stand on one of those stages. I just don’t think it’s healthy. I’m sure there are people that are listening to this podcast like, “Oh my God, I got to train [inaudible 00:07:51],” I’m like, “Good for you.” But I’m just going to tell you, I’ve known way too many people that come out of all of it with disordered eating patterns, disordered body image patterns, all kinds of stuff. And I’ve talked about this in the past, but when I was trying to get… It was the very first time that I was going to stand on a stage and I had a lot of loose skin and I had muscle, but we were trying so hard to compensate for my loose skin that the diet part of it was not in my body’s best interest. It was in the show’s best interest.

Corinne:

And I remember not having carbs for a long time and getting to the point to where I would go and I would have to work out a couple of hours a day. I do my first workout in the morning. I would go back to bed and I would sleep, and then when Logan would get up, I’d get back up. I would barely be able to keep up with him. I would call my mom or my grandmother begged them to come over and watch him so I could go back to bed. I would also have to go back to the gym and do cardio again in the evening, and then we’d come home and just fall back in the bed. I remember once having to take Logan to his grandmother’s and I begged my mom to ride with me and to drive because I didn’t think I could stay awake at the wheel.

Corinne:

And I slept all the way there, got him to his grandma’s and she was three hours away, slept all the way back. And my mom was super concerned for me at the time, which she should have been. But it was like, I was ignoring my body. My body was saying, this is no good for you. And I was never even going to be a winner on stage. I just wanted to do it and I was able to push myself, but when I look back on it, I could tell like that is when I knew that something’s wrong with diets where all the carbs are gone. And I have, since all you all know, I poke fun at Keto and all this other stuff. I don’t really give a shit. Some people do feel really good on that stuff.

Corinne:

It’s not that I have like, [inaudible 00:10:01]. For all of you on the podcast, if you are wondering what I’m doing, I’m putting up the Jesus cross like a vampire walked into the room. It’s more of, I’ve done enough research reading from women fitness experts and stuff and even some of the people that started the whole keto stuff, they talk now about women need carbs. Like our bodies do need it and our bodies shut down and do… We have all kinds of hormonal damage if we are not eating them. And it’s just one of the things that I tell people, please quit hating on carbs, carbs didn’t do anything to you. If you want to hate on something, hate on the diet industry that told us carbs are the reason why we’re overweight, that’s a problem.

Corinne:

And so I look at how I live now and everything that I teach you guys and everything that I do for myself is always like, is this the right thing for my body? I’m always just trying to take care of myself and it’s not only losing the weight from love, but it’s keeping the weight off from love, from compassion, from wanting to be the most energetic, the most vibrant version of me. I think a lot of people, what they want to do is they want to try to lose weight to be able to be the most energetic and to be able to be the most vibrant. And they kill themselves all the way there. They don’t take care of what they put in their body. They don’t think about what their body needs. They don’t talk to themselves very nicely.

Corinne:

And when you get to the end, all you’ve gotten is your goal weight, a few days of celebration, and then you’re left with, I’ve lost my way. I ain’t got to go. And I have nothing motivating me anymore to eat in a way that I ate. To eat in a way that’s hard. To wake up every day and dread my food and to wake up everyday and know I’m going to have to fight with the inner version of me who wants to eat a fucking piece of bread and watch everybody else and just sit there and think, I sure wish I could. That is a hard way to sign up to live the rest of your life. And it is some absolute bullshit.

Kathy:

I just had this huge light bulb moment. All those times, I lost weight. I lost it doing things I didn’t… Eating foods I didn’t like, restricting from foods I did like. Not paying attention to what foods actually made me feel good and which ones didn’t so that when I got down to goal weight, I was like, thank God, now I can eat what I love again.

Corinne:

Yeah. That is such response so many of us have. It’s like when you lose your weight, you better like what you did all the way down. You have to like learn how to talk to your body in a nice way, or you’ll get there and you’ll keep pulling it apart. If you have a habit of nitpicking yourself, guess what? No matter what you weigh, you’ll be in the habit of nitpicking. But it’s just like you were talking about too. Yeah, hate what you eat just because you weigh what you want away doesn’t mean you’re like, oh, and now I love all these foods.

Kathy:

Oh no. I remember one of the diets I did was keto and I figured out real quick, well, I lost a bunch of weight on it, but I felt terrible. And I remember fixing my kids sloppy Joes. Do you remember sloppy Joes? You know your [crosstalk 00:13:41]? Oh my gosh. I couldn’t eat it on the keto. I couldn’t have the sauce, I couldn’t have the bread. I don’t even think I could eat the beef. I think I was restricted from beef on this particular diet.

Corinne:

That wasn’t even keto, that was just [inaudible 00:13:53].

Kathy:

I know, this was like super keto or something. It was like, hell keto. I don’t know.

Corinne:

It’s called the third ring of hell, Kathy.

Kathy:

I got so mad at my children who were like five and six because they wouldn’t eat their manwich. I was like, I’m going to lose my cool. I did, I probably did lose my cool, because I wanted that manwich so bad and they wouldn’t eat it.

Corinne:

You ungrateful little bastards, you are going to eat that manwich.

Kathy:

Yes. It’s no wonder I put that. It took me about three months to lose this 50 or 60 pounds. And I bet I had it all put back on and half the time again. Yeah, talk about hating the process.

Corinne:

Yeah. Well, I think both of us, if we’re going to have a diet, we’ll never do again. I think we’ve both decided, low carb, no carb, that whole range is in our pile. And I want to say for all of you, the reason why we’ll never do it again is because we have stepped back and we know that did not work for me now. And when we say that didn’t work for me, this is what I want everybody to hear. We both lost incredible weight on that, but it didn’t work for us. It just lost weight. But what it didn’t do is like, if we are yelling at our kids because they won’t eat a manwich, if you can’t drive your kid across town without needing your mother as your standby Uber, because you can’t stay awake. If you spend your entire day thinking about all the things you can’t have, that’s not working. That does not work longterm.

Corinne:

And so you have to evaluate that stuff. The other diet that I did 1000 times over that we lovingly say inside of No BS, it’s almost like we don’t really let members in until they’ve gone through weight watchers first. Was it a joke? You can just bypass weight watchers if you would like, but everybody always comes on when we have a coaching call or something, it’s always like, well, back when I was in weight Watchers or, [inaudible 00:16:15], I think all of this diet trauma I had was from a weight Watchers day. So weight watchers is mine. I did that. I think the first time I did weight watchers, I was 11 or 12 years old with my mother. And my mom always battled her weight. I was super obese growing up.

Corinne:

I was 210 pounds and about 5’2 when I was… Not that super obese, but I shouldn’t even say that. That’s throwing dirt on my little 12 year old sales face, but I definitely was the kid in the room that everyone bullied. I wore every single eating pattern on my body. I took the brunt of everyone’s jokes. I was the easiest person to pick apart. Back then, there wasn’t that many overweight kids. There was me and one other guy in our class who were overweight. It was relentless when we were kids. And so I remember coming home just bawling. I remember specifically my sixth grade year, it was Christmas break and it was the last day.

Corinne:

And this guy that was in… I won’t even say his name because he by coincidence follows me on social now and sometimes listen to the podcast and he thinks he wasn’t the one and I don’t have the heart to tell him, no, you did bully me. I think you just have forgotten all this. But he went nuts on me on that last day and the teacher did nothing. She just basically sat there and put her head down on the desk because I’m sure she was sitting there thinking, all I got to do is take one more hour of these assholes and then I’m off for two weeks. So I went home crying my eyes out. And I remember my mom came home. I begged her to put me in public school. I begged her to not send me back because it was so awful every single day. And she didn’t want us to go to public school.

Corinne:

It meant a lot to my mom as a single mother, she did not have a good high school education. She had me at 17 and she wanted us to have as good education as possible because I think she feared that we would grow up and not be able to get good jobs like her. And she didn’t want us to have to struggle like she had to struggle all her life. The solution was, we’ll go on a diet and we joined weight watchers. And it worked. Some, I would be up and down, we would join and then something would happen where either she’d have to work late or something, we’d miss a meeting. And so we would just go out to eat knowing we had two weeks where I had to weigh in. And next thing you know, we were joining again six or eight months later. So we did that a lot when I was in high school.

Corinne:

I did the same pattern in my 20s because I just always had this idea, we’d always joined weight watchers and in my mind it worked because short term we would lose some weight. So I just kept thinking, there must just be something wrong with me. The program must work and I would just keep going back. And eventually, I would always break it. And the thing that I hated about weight Watchers looking back on it is that I can see why it took me a long time to get over exercise not being a part of the solution for weight loss. At first, so many times in my life, I had always wanted to be athletic, but the only time I ever exercised was when I was trying to lose weight and I would kill myself in the gym and I would never fall in love with movement. I would never go into it with the mindset of someone who wanted to be athletic. I went into the mindset of someone who’s fat, who needs to lose weight, which meant a lot of self-loathing, a lot of not listening to my body over exercising and stuff.

Corinne:

And weight watchers would reward you. You could get more food if you exercised. And then the whole culture was around back then, if you had points, number one, find as many free foods as possible so that you can eat all you want and stay within your points. So there was no prioritization of really good foods for you and stuff. So when I was doing it back then. I don’t know what they even do now, but good Lord don’t eat anything with fat in it, that was going to be a point Buster. An it rewarded a lot of frankenfoods, like not real foods. And it set you up to not pay attention to when you’re emotionally eating.

Corinne:

I remember barely eating all day because I would know I would want to eat all I want and just zone out at night, which is just emotional, like to escape my life. I would try to save as many points as possible and then just eat all night. And that whole system, it just didn’t work on the mindset. It didn’t work on how I wanted to think and feel about myself. What did I deserve? Why was I overeating to begin with? Why did I feel like I couldn’t emotionally handle my life so I needed to eat to compensate for it.

Corinne:

So it never addressed any of those things. And then it had that mentality of, if you exercise, then you get to have this, as if food is now a reward. And if you’re going to exercise, the reward is the endorphins. The reward is being proud of yourself. The reward is the health benefits you get. But you have to think about those. If all you think about is I’m going to get to eat this. You’re not solving a weight problem. If you ever have to not exercise for a couple of weeks, then guess what you’re left with? Fear and terror that you’re going to gain weight. It’s just that… Yeah, go ahead

Kathy:

And for me, that was my hangup about weight watchers. I had a lot of shame about standing on the scale in front of another human being and then telling me good job or what happened. So first of all, just getting on the scale and somebody else reading the number was bad enough. And then I put all my emotions in their basket to tell me whether or not I was doing a good job at taking care of myself. So I had a lot of shame going to weight watchers.

Corinne:

Yeah. And I think that this is my thing about weight watchers, the things that they do because I don’t… You all know me. I love me some Oprah. I want to meet Oprah. I don’t want to besmirch weight watchers. Especially because my working knowledge of weight watchers is my experience while I was growing up. And this is the funniest story though, about weight Watchers, I swear to God. When I had lost my weight, I wanted to be a weight watcher leader so bad. I can’t tell you Kathy, how bad when I first lost my weight, all I wanted to do was help people. I wanted to help other women do it. And there were two ways that I knew that I could do it. Number one was, oh my God, I should be a weight watcher leader and number two was, I should become trainer that way I can work with people in the gym.

Corinne:

Well, when I was losing my weight, I had gotten to a certain point and I was like, everyday Logan was at mother’s day out and I was trying to figure out a way to keep myself busy because it was really hard for me when I first sent him to mother’s day out, because he needed to go for socialization, poor baby. He was not talking at two and a half at all. He didn’t talk really. He said his first words really at around four. And so that I wouldn’t freak the fuck out every day while he was there, I [inaudible 00:24:38] on the weight watcher message boards. And I was trying to train for triathlons back then. And I think what was happening, I had like zero nutrition knowledge whatsoever, but I was determined I was going to be this triathlete.

Corinne:

So I would get all these weight watcher message boards. I ended up joining the online version so that I could talk to the people who were doing the triathlons and they were saying, you just need to eat more food. And I was just like, yeah, but I’m not hungry and everything, they’re like, no, in the very beginning you need to eat a little bit more. And they really helped me figure out how to really listen to my body. I was not eating because it was so hard to exercise it. My body was decompressing my appetite and they were teaching me other signals to look for. So they were saying if you’re wearing out later in the day, that means that your hunger is suppressed because of the energy thing, but your body is telling you later in the day, go ahead and eat something right after you work out.

Corinne:

I knew nothing. I go on these hour and a half bike rides, slowest motherfucker in the group and would eat anything. Nothing before and nothing after, because I was so nervous about being the new girl, that’d be afraid of shitting my pants for number one. So I wouldn’t eat before I would go, then we’d be riding and everybody would be eating stuff. And I was just like, I’m not hungry. I couldn’t eat and it didn’t dawn on me. And they would say things like, well, you’ll ride better. And I thought how? Nobody would have explained to me all the things that went along with it. And then when we would be done, I’d be so fricking wore out and dehydrate and I would drink water, but I had to be like dehydrated low on salt that 

my body couldn’t take food. And so my weight was stalling doing all kinds of stuff.

Corinne:

So anyway, I ended up joining and I lost my last few pounds on weight watchers. And it was because of those triathlon ladies. And they’re like, now you’re going to have to override those points sometimes. You’re going to need to eat more and you’re going to do all these things. And so I really wasn’t doing their program, but because I’d lost a little bit of weight on there, I thought weight watchers is going to have me. I’m going to lead groups. This is going to be amazing. I go to my center and they’re like, no, we’re a franchise. So if you did online, it doesn’t count. You need to join and lose 10 more pounds to be a leader. I had to get 10 pounds underneath my goal at this point. So I did it, just so I could become a leader. And then when I applied, they turned me down. Weight watchers would not have me. Nashville weight watchers would not have me.

Kathy:

Wouldn’t you love to know who that know that note came from so you could go back and say, Oh my gosh, thank you. Thank you so much for telling me no.

Corinne:

I don’t know. I was like, look, I’ve lost like… At that point, because I had to get underweight, I think I’d lost 110 pounds at that point. And I was willing to give weight watchers all the credit. You know who really got credit? Besides well myself, it was triathlon ladies in that little message board group. To this day, I would love to know their names because they helped me feel like an athlete before I felt like an athlete. They taught me so much stuff. So I’m very grateful for weight watchers for that. But I remember telling them, well, what if I run out of… On days off is a good example, I’d run out of points. And they were like, no, you’re going to have to keep eating. We promise you that if you really want to be able to keep training and not get injured and do all these things, you can’t listen to the point. You’re going to have to make sure that you are thinking about your body in a whole different way.

Corinne:

So I guess I’m grateful for weight watchers and the fact that throughout my entire weight loss journey, I just had these Epic moments where everything was pointing to the direction of, if you’re going to lose weight, you have to listen to your body in a new way. You have to treat your body in a new way. You have to think for yourself in a new way. Everything has to be thinking about what you need, what takes care of you, what your body is communicating to you and you having the courage to trust all that’s been told to you until you figure out what’s really working. And so that’s one of the things that people ask me all the time, should I quit weight watchers? Should I do this? And it’s like, if you love it, if you really love it because some of the things that they do right is, they do have good community.

Corinne:

A lot of our members don’t quit their weight watcher groups because that’s who they talk to about their stuff. There’s nobody else to talk to until they join and eventually they have us, but it just this one of those diets that I did where I also can see 70% of my garbage around reward eating, game in the food system and that kind of stuff. That was really baked into my weight watcher days.

Kathy:

So you teach us in No BS how to look back at things we’ve done, whether they’ve been successes or not and find the learning moments in them. And it sounds like you have a lot of learning moments in the time that you spent in weight watchers and through the journey that you took to lose your weight. Whether you were actually successful at becoming a leader or felt successful because your body felt good or whatever. I think that’s such an important thing that you teach us inside the membership is to always look for what can I learn from this? Sounds like you’ve got a lot.

Corinne:

Yeah. Well, and I think that’s important for all of our listeners. It’s easy to go back to your past and beat yourself up over it and judge yourself for how you showed up or what did or didn’t happen and that kind of stuff. It’s a skill to go back to your past and learn from it. To take a look at things, even if at first glance, you’re like, well, I regret that or I wish that hadn’t happened. Take a second pass through the lens of, but what am I going to take from that? Because I can look at anything from my past. Somebody was asking me the other day about the last… Basically since I started the No BS weight loss program, we’ve been going strong now. Oh my gosh, it’s like 13 years now.

Corinne:

It’s hard to believe that I’ve been in business that long, but what would I do over looking back? What mistakes did I make that I wouldn’t do again? It was actually yesterday, somebody was asking me this and I was telling the guy, I said, “I can’t really think of anything,” and he said nothing? And I said, “I will tell you, I never wish anything was different.” I look back at every decision that I’ve ever made. Because he was saying, you could probably be so much bigger than you are right now if you’d just done different things. And I said, “Yeah, but God, I wouldn’t be as good as I am right now had I not had to learn through things not working and stuff.”

Corinne:

In my mind, that’s the first thing that I always go to and that’s one of the things I like to teach my weight loss clients is that, so many of us, we’ve gotten weight loss perfectly. We’ve done keto. We know how to willpower. There’s a lot of women that know how to lose half their weight or all their weight willpower and the fuck out of themselves. Our problem isn’t that, our problem is that, we’re not willing to feel failure and mistakes and stuff as we figure out our long-term solution. To have the courage to go for losing it the last time, not just, I need to get it off as fast as I can and then figure out the rest of my shit. And I said, if there was one thing that I could change, it would be, I would value myself faster. I would have dropped a lot of just spending time worrying about what other people thought about me. I would drop the worrying that I wasn’t good enough to help people. I said, if there was anything that ever slowed me down, that I would have changed. It would have been those moments because I probably would have made more mistakes faster. I would have put myself out there and screwed up 100 times faster than I did.

Corinne:

Even me who is someone who’s willing to just like… Everybody always thinks I’m just willing to try shit, I still spent so many days of my life not doing things I really wanted to do. Not saying the things I really wanted to say, not trying things I really wanted to try because I spent a day or two first worrying about what somebody would think about it and afraid that I wasn’t… Who am I to even…

Corinne:

I can’t even tell you how many weeks I sat on the couch, afraid to comment on a message board post for fear that people wouldn’t want to listen to someone who’d lost 100 pounds. That I’d had a weight problem, why would they listen to me? Why would I know what I tell them about. I didn’t even ever apply for a gym job because of it. And not to say any of that, I wouldn’t change any of it, but when I look back, I always want to think about what’s the lesson going forward and now it’s, you got to value yourself and I’m not going to make somebody wait on me to get over myself ever again. And when I look back, that would be the only thing I would ever change.

Kathy:

Girl, I am crying too. I don’t know if you noticed, but it’s almost like you are talking to my soul right now. I look back at all the times I have questioned myself either as a coach or as a wife or as a mom and I just don’t want to waste that time anymore. You were talking earlier about being the best person you can be right now. Being in touch with your body, taking care of your health. I’m 55 years old, I don’t want to waste any more time on worrying about whether or not I’m valued because I can create that value myself.

Kathy:

But the point I’m trying to go to here is back to the diets that we’ll never do again, I am Uber focused on what food to make me feel good. And carbs like potatoes and rice and barley make me feel good. Carbs like crackers and breads, not so much. So once you really put importance on finding those foods that make you feel good and the quantities of those foods that make you feel good, you don’t need someone else telling you or giving you a plan or telling you the instructions or giving you a food list because you’ve got all that inside of you now. I think that’s what we teach. And that’s what so important for women to know.

Corinne:

And I think it’s service by the entire diet industry. And I’ve been talking to some weight coaches that are in the more natural space. So one of the things I love about what I’m doing right now is I’m really expanding my horizons to talk to… So for the listeners running a first time ever advanced weight loss certification, for women who want to help other women lose weight. So I’m running this group and I was telling them yesterday that we just need more people out there teaching every woman, truly how to lose her weight for good. And I’m working with people who are in that natural space and do different… They don’t necessarily subscribe to my four basics. But at the end of the day, what we all are trying to do is teach women that they’re smarter than they think the diet industry has hosed us and that they’re taking care of yourself is a big ass well-rounded package.

Corinne:

It’s about learning how to trust, learning how to listen to yourself, learning how to be your own best trusted advisor when it comes to how your body’s feeling, learning how to eat in a way that is integrity. Sometimes we want to eat in the moment what we want, but is it also in integrity with what we want in the long term and teaching people the skill of being able to do that. It’s just like a lot of my clients, they know period week is going to be a humdinger and they’re going to want Doritos and Cheetos and cookies and all the things. And we just are like, yeah, if your body’s going to crave it, we’re just going to play in it because those foods aren’t bad.

Corinne:

Those foods are not a problem unless you’ve got diarrhea, they make your stomach cramp, or you’re eating them because you’re pissed off at your boss. Planning to have some Doritos because you love the taste of them and you know that when you’re on your period, for dinner, you just want to have you some Doritos, okay. It’s no different than like… There’s some knots. It wasn’t long ago, I told Chris this, I think it was my last period. I could feel it coming. I felt like… What’s that song? The per mommy verse? Feel it in the dead of night. You know it’s that really low song sang by [crosstalk 00:39:45].

Kathy:

Coming in the air tonight.

Corinne:

That song was just like rotate in my head for days. But I had felt like I was on my period before I was actually on my period. And I thought, fuck me, man. Getting older is no fun with this shit. And so I looked at Chris and I said, “Tomorrow night, I’ll tell you what I’m having for dinner.” And he said, “What?” And I said, “We’re going to Sonic and I want the cookie dough, whatever they call it the blast.” I was like, well, that’s what I want for dinner. And he’s like, “Okay.” He’s like, “[inaudible 00:40:19] Cheeseburger.” And I was like, “[inaudible 00:40:21].”

Kathy:

Chris [inaudible 00:40:23].

Corinne:

But I could tell by the way I was feeling. And stuff like that is not a problem. It’s when you’re in the diaper about your period and it’s five o’clock and you’re just like, fuck the world and fuck me, let’s go get it. And then you eat a bigger one than you had planned because you feel like, well, I might as well get all I can in because I’m screwing up. And then you look at him getting a cheeseburger and you are like, and throw me a cheeseburger in too. If you do it without deliberation, you’ll be deliberately fucking up your future. The way I like to teach everybody is, we’re going to listen to what our bodies say. We’re not going to have bunches of food rules. We’re not going to do all those shenanigans and stuff. No one is overweight because they were very decisive and intentional about how they ate. That is not the problem. So you have anything else you want to add to this beautiful conversation?

Kathy:

No, I should have loved 200 episodes with you though.

Corinne:

I know and we actually probably have more technical episodes. This is like the 200 officials, but we have all those Facebook live recordings. Guys you all have got content coming out your butt, basically. You all need to make sure that you are downloading the podcasts that you love. I really want to talk about this because I haven’t talked about this in all the podcasts, but one of the ways that I make sure that I know what’s important is when I listened to my favorite podcasts, if it’s one that I’m like, this is a hell, yes. I always download the episode so that I have it on my phone. That means that your phone now has it. So if something happens or you’re off the grid or whatever, you still can listen when you want to.

Corinne:

It also helps us in terms of our rankings guys, if you’re downloading our episodes, it just helps Kathy and I bubble up to the top in the health category so that more people are finding us and more people are listening. And if you do love us and you want to help us spread the No BS shit that we talk about, screenshot your favorite episodes, post them on Instagram or Facebook. Use the hashtag No BS Woman. And if you want, you can tag me or Kathy. A lot of times we will re-share you on our social or you’ll never know when we’re going to give you a little shout out. I follow the No BS Woman hashtag over on Instagram. So I’m always looking to see when I’m tagged. I’m always looking to see when people are making comments and I love to personally respond or like your posts and stuff.

Corinne:

So I like to see what the No BS Woman nation is up to. So those are ways that you can help us out if you want. The other thing you need to know is that if you have a friend that will just take the free course, they can go to nobsfreecourse.com, they can take our free course and get emails and all the things from us in terms of when we have new podcasts and when we have openings and all that kind of stuff. So guys, you all have a good one and we will see you next week.